Also present were, Amy Graham, City Recorder and Robert Quandt, City
Councilor
Henry Leach from
84284 Alder Drive
spoke regarding the information he sent into the office after the
last Road
Commission Meeting. This is regarding property he owns at
5573 Wohink Drive
. His request was reviewed at the August 22nd Road
Commission Meeting where the Road Commission denied his request and he
was sent a letter of denial. Unfortunately he missed the last meeting
because he was informed the meeting was on Tuesday night instead of
Monday. He disagrees with the Road Commissions decision. He wanted to
present it again to the Commission. Mr. Petersdorf told Mr. Leach
since this issue was not on the agenda for this meeting, the
Commission could not make a ruling on it tonight. Mr. Petersdorf said
that the Road Commission already made a decision last month and that
he needs to appeal that decision to the City Council.
The Commission thanked Henry for his time.
Chairman of the Road Commission, Mr.
Petersdoft asked if there was anyone else that wanted to address the
Road Commission.
Troy Sathe,
833550 Clear Lake Road
Mr. Sathe wanted the Road Commission to
know that the reason Mr. Leach missed last months meeting was because he
told him to come on Tuesday instead of Monday.
He also wanted us to know that even when he tried to back his van
out of the driveway, he could barely get it out because of those poles.
The Commission thanked
Troy
for his time.
D.
Unfinished/Old Business
Mike McAllister
wrote a letter to the Road Commission suggesting that we hold off doing
any chip sealing right now because of the weather. The Mayor made a
suggestion at the last City Council Meeting, and directed Mr. Petersdorf
to go ahead and get the bids, specs and everything needed and bring it
back to the City Council at the next City Council Meeting.
Commissioner, Linda Lauck pointed out that on the bottom of the bid
form it says that the bids are good for 90 day period, so are we going
to ask the contractors for a bid that lasts until next year, or have it
bid now and have them bid it again next year. Mr. Petersdorf said he
will talk to the Mayor and see how he wants to do that, because most
commercial bids are for 90 days. What we will probably have to do is
when we go out for bids, would be to tell the vendors the bid would be
good for 360 days or 400 days or 200 days. Linda didn't think that
anyone would send in a bid under those conditions.
Lee's suggestion was to go out for bids now, but know that we won't
be able to get it done this year and state that we want it done
something like July 1st.
The next discussion is on George Hawes
driveway permit. Mr. Petersdorf thought Mr. Hawes gave us a new diagram
for the property #103, but it was the same diagram. There was some
confusion at the last City Council Meeting and the Road Commission
Meeting, but Mr. Petersdorf felt Keith Herring had set us straight on
what we were approving, was the driveway access permit off the second
lot on Lakeview drive #103 and wanted to install a concrete apron
instead of asphalt. That is what the Road Commission thought they were
approving. Mr. Petersdorf was concerned about what the Road Commission
could approve and what needed to be recommended to the City Council.
Linda noticed that this isn't a new diagram.
There are sections in the Master Road Plan (MRP) that are the
discretion of the City Council. Mr. Petersdorf thought that everything
the Road Commission approved was so we can recommend it to the City
Council. Linda wanted to know if all the forms were to be changed so
they reflect the signature approval process. Commissioner, Bill Connell
wanted to know if the City Council would be approving everything. Mr.
Petersdorf said to hang in there until all this gets worked out. What
was done in the past is different than what the City Council wants to do
in the future. Mr. Petersdorf said that if there was a new procedure
then the City Council should have let the Roads Commission know of those
procedures in the beginning. In the past, The Road Commission was able
to approve a driveway access permit. Now the property owner will have to
wait 45 days to get all the approvals. Mr. Petersdorf is going to meet
with the Mayor to find out how to proceed without putting up anymore
road blocks than there already are for the property owner.
Linda wanted to make sure which permits needed final City Council
approval and which permits the Roads Commission could approve. The Road
Commission can only make recommendations for the City Council to review
at their meeting and approve or deny the application. Linda
wanted to know what brought about all of this confusion.
At this time, Mr. Petersdorf wanted to
apologize to the Road Commission for some of the steps he has taken with
his leadership. He was told at the public meeting that he used his
influence on some of the decisions made by the Road Commission and the
Commissioners were taking Mr. Petersdorf's word for what is going on.
This was not his intention and he wanted make it clear that the Road
Commission makes the decision, not the Chair to the Road Commission, as
he doesn't vote. Mr. Petersdorf didn't have a chance at the beginning of
the last City Council Meeting to read his report. The Council had a lot
of questions for Mr. Petersdorf. He said it was like an atom bomb, so he
just listened to what was going on. Mr. Petersdorf wanted the Commission
to know he wasn't sitting up there saying it was his way or no way.
Linda and Bill said that he has never done that to them. Mr. Petersdorf
said that right or wrong the City Council makes the final decision. Mr.
Petersdorf just wanted to apologize to the Commission, and let them know
it was not his intention to ever influence the Commission's decisions.
Mr. Petersdorf said this whole misunderstanding happened when
Middlestadt and Stoud put in the two pads on
Ocean Lake Blvd.
They never submitted diagrams, but they put pvc pipes in the ground to
mark their pads. Residents will have their land surveyed or they won't
get their permit.. Mr. Petersdorf just wanted to make sure that the
Commission understood that he doesn't ever want them to feel pressure
from him and he wanted to apologize again if that was the case. From now
on Mr. Petersdorf will simply chair the meeting and ask the Commission
questions per the line item on what they feel on the subject. If you
have a question such as if George asked if there were six stakes in the
ground, then he would answer with "yes, there are six stakes in the
ground". He won't give
his opinion anymore. The Commission will be making the ultimate
decisions, as it should be. Mr. Petersdorf wanted it known that the Road
Commissioners are very intelligent people. They have been here a long
time and understand making things harder for the citizens can sometimes
be rough. Mr. Petersdorf is
looking forward to getting together with the Mayor on these issues and
let us know these things will smooth out and the City Recorder will be
able to make some decisions on some of the permits so they don't get
held up and have to wait for the City Council to approve. The Road
Commission will make all of the recommendations to the City Council so
if anything can't be worked out then it automatically gets shifted to
the City Council for the final decision.
Back to George Hawes and the driveway that was going to go down this
50 ft side of the hill. Mr. Hawes already built a bridge down the road.
The Planning Secretary, Lisa Ekelund and Mr. Petersdorf went down to Mr.
Hawes property and told him that we weren't going to allow the driveway
to go down that step of a hill. He then changed his mind and moved the
location of the parking pad. We made a recommendation to pave the apron
and that is what we need to make the motion on tonight. It is tax lot
#103. Discussion on where
exactly the diagram is trying to show. Tax lot #102 is where the house
is and #103 is the empty lot. We will make a recommendation to the
Council that we approve the apron to tax lot #103 and not #102. The City
Recorder, Amy Graham said she has only seen a permit from Mr. Hawes for
the long driveway. The
Commission said they did not approve the long driveway. Linda said that
permit should no longer be valid. The City is only aware of the one
permit and they assumed that is the only permit the Road Commission
approved. George hasn't submitted a second permit for just the apron on
lot #103. Linda said that it looks like he submitted them together and
the Road Commission denied #102 and approved lot #103.
Mr. Petersdorf asked Keith if the apron on tax lot #103 was
approved a couple of years ago? Keith doesn't remember anything about
tax lot #103, just tax lot #102 when Mr. Hawes was putting in the road
down to #102. That was about 3 years ago. Mr. Petersdorf said that we
should have George submit a new plot map drawn up for tax lot #103 for
the apron to go onto that piece of property. Linda asked Amy to check
and be sure Mr. Hawes gets his $125 back from the first permit that was
denied. At this time Mr. Hawes file did not show that we collected the
$125 fee, but Amy will check it out for the application that was
submitted on
July 10, 2008
for lot #102 and #103. This should be an application for just #103.
Patty will send George a letter asking for a new drawing and a
new permit. Once the new
drawing and permit is submitted to our office, we can review it at the
next scheduled meeting.
Permits for Dale Middlestadt and Eugene Stroud have been revoked.
After the site review committee got involved they realized that the pad
he was building was into the riparian area. Mr.
Petersdorf reminded the Commission that Ocean Blvd was made a one way
street and all those boat trailers and vehicles park right next to the
waters edge, and have been parking there for years. Mr. Petersdorf
admitted that the Roads Commission made a mistake on the permits. Both
Mr. Middlestadt and Mr. Stroud phoned Mr. Petersdorf at home and left
messages stating they would hold off and restore the property back to
the original state. Dave Person said that the Johnson's who live next
door reported that every summer for at least 9 years there has been at
least one 40ft motor home parked on that property for a month to 2 ½
months. They have electrical power hooked up on a pole in the property.
In the era of vacation rentals, the parties have gone on for years and
the neighbors had to put up with it. When neighbors realized there
were lines being drawn on the pad for a minimum of 3 RV's, they were
pushed over the top. The community didn't like that Mr. Stroud and Mr.
Middlestadt were making the grass areas into asphalt with all the
makings of permanent parking. The
question was asked about the holding tank from the RV going into the
lake. Mr. Johnson said he has never seen that happening to the best of
his knowledge and that the RV would leave every 3 or 4 days and empty
the tanks and then come back. The electricity is running off Mr.
Middlestadt's home, running under the street onto the pole. Dave
Person's made a suggestion that maybe a small apron should be put in
where a vehicle could park rather than parking in the grass and mud.
Regarding
Francis Bay Lane
, Mr. Petersdorf said that he did not intend to give a waver permits to
the residents. Also, we would give Jan Sandoval's permit fee back if the
City Council' s decision is not to charge the other residents. It was
however, Mr. Petersdorf's recommendation to wave the fees for the
residents to move their water lines. Mr. Petersdorf wants to make a
recommendation to the City Council to wave the fees for
Francis Bay Lane
in order to get the water lines moved to the right place. If the
residents move the lines over, then they still need to get a permit from
the City. The only thing the Road Commission is doing is giving the
residents a waiver to dig the ditch. We are not waving the electrical
fees, the plumbing fees or any of that stuff. If the Council waves the
fee, then we would recommend that we give Jan Sandavol her money back.
Mr. Petersdorf asked for a motion to send this recommendation to the
City Council. Linda made a motion for the an amnesty right- of -way
permits for the individuals that
live on Clear Lake Road and Woodland Lane to use Francis Bay Lane.:
(Current permit requests from R0812- William J. Houston; R0813- Ken
& Wan Platt; R0814 -Jim & Janet Barnhart; R0815- Utigard; R0816
-Harry Holton; R0817 -Joe Naymola; R0818 Phillip Pinheiro.
It was the Road Commission's decision these people would be given
an amnesty right-of way- permit to use
Francis Bay Lane
. We didn't want to charge these people who had been using this for over
40 years. The City Council will make the final decision. Motion was
carried.
E.
New Business
Letter from Julia Craig regarding the
Greengate Road
issue. Mr. Petersdorf said that it was difficult to respond to this
letter because it's a he said, she said letter. Linda wanted to know if
Mr. Petersdorf would reply to Julia. Mr. Petersdorf said that he would
not respond because there is now a law suit against the developers. We
will tell the Judge that we will abide by whatever the decision handed
down would be. Mr. Petersdorf said that it doesn't look like they have
locked the gates as yet.
Request for a driveway access permit for
Mr. John Johnson to put a pad in front of his home.
Mr. Petersdorf said that John Johnson has already started the
work on the parking pad in front of his house on the west side of Ocean
Blvd. John Johnson hand dug his parking pad and there was a discussion
on whether or not he needed an excavation permit even if he did the work
himself. Patty wanted to
know which permit should be used. Mr. Petersdorf believes that it may be
a right-of-way access permit. Mr. Petersdorf said that if you go by the
rules, because Mr. Johnson started this project without acquiring a
permit first, the City can legally double the fee for the access permit.
The Commission wanted to know the circumstances of his permit. The City
Recorder, Amy Graham stated when Mr. Johnson came into City Hall he
wanted to know if there was a permit for Mr. Stroud's parking pad. At
the time, there was no permit on file in City Hall. Amy and the Planning
Secretary then went down to
Ocean Blvd.
to see if there was illegal work being done. The people doing the work
hadn't seen a permit, but said they had a verbal from Mr. Petersdorf.
Amy came back to the office to issue a stop work order on Mr. Stroud and
on the way back she noticed that Mr. Johnson digging in his front yard
and told him he needed to come into the office to get a permit before he
dug his pad on his property. He said that he did come into the office to
get a permit and the office was not sure which permit he would need for
the parking pad. He filled out a form for a driveway permit at that time
and the office had said they would get back to him on the correct form.
Later on that afternoon Mr. Stroud's permit came into the office
by Mr. Petersdorf. Mr. Stroud's permit had been approved by the Road
Commission a couple of days before.
Commissioner, Bill Connell made a motion
to approve Mr. Johnsons permit with the fee doubled and George seconded
the motion to make the recommendation to the City Council for the
right-of-way permit with a double fee. Mr. Petersdorf said that Bill
made a recommendation that we go ahead John W. Johnson at tax lot
19-12-34-21-04100 right-of- way use permit to build a pad for parking
adjacent to his land. Motion carried with one Commissioner who
abstained.
Next on the Agenda was a hand out of the Dune City Directory. Linda
pointed out that this directory didn't have the phone numbers and
addresses and that it would be of much better use to have the complete
directory. Patty will get the directory to the Road Commission members.
Next is an email from
Lane
County
on roadway chip seal coatings. This email says that Lane County Public
Works, contracts out to municipalities to perform roadway chip seal
coatings and that we may want to compare costs to a private contractor.
Mr. Petersdorf said that we will find out more when we get ready to go
out for bids. We will make sure the County gets a copy as well as the
other courtesy faxes we send out to other contractors.
In the packet is the
Dunes
City
State
fund for the Roads Department. This shows the Income and expenses for
the Roads.
Mr. Petersdorf had a discussion on how to break out the taxes for
Summerbell and all the other residents that live on Cloud Nine.
Lee made a suggestion to get some outside help from someone that has
gone through this process with the kind of issues the Commission is
talking about. It would be a cost to the City since we are not using
LCOG anymore. It is
advisable to sit down with the Mayor and come up with a reference of
someone that can give us some direction on how to get started. The
Commission agreed that it's a good idea since there is about 20 steps we
would need to go through. The
suggestion was made to write to the Mayor and the City Council about
this issue. There are already so many complaints about Cloud Nine being
so narrow and people driving off the road and getting stuck in the soft
sides. Linda said residents are in danger just walking their dogs.
The Commission wants Mr. Petersdorf to talk to the Mayor before
making any recommendations. Mr. Petersdorf will report back on his
findings to the Roads Commission.
Patty was asked to call the PUD in
Lincoln
, to find out what is needed from us in order to illuminate the light
pole on 83819 Summerbell. Mr. Petersdorf will talk to Amy before making
a recommendation to the City Council.
F.
Unscheduled Items Not Listed on Agenda
Robert Quant,
83573 Erhart Rd.
Councilor, Mr. Quant wanted to answer a few questions and correct and
clarify some mischaracterizations of some discussions he heard tonight.
In his personal opinion the Roads Commission is extremely valuable and
he doesn't believe any micro managing is involved.
The access permits that were given to Mr. Middlestadt and Mr.
Stroud who live on
Ocean Blvd.
, were not the correct permits. There are different levels of authority
that is required for each permit. If all that was needed was an access
permit, they wouldn't have to go through City Council. The City Council
isn't interested in micro managing anything. The only thing the City
Council is interested in doing is following the rules that are laid out
already in the Master Roads Plan (MRP). The right-of-way use permits
need to go to the City Council but an access permit doesn't. Not only is
the issuance of this access permit incorrect, it was issued outside of
the city recorders office. All permit applications got the Roads
Commission where they make recommendations to the City Recorder and then
they go out and are gone. But not a Right-of-Way Use permit. The project
on Ocean Blvd. was in the Shoreline protection zone, so any excavation
in this zone would require a grading permit and the grading permit would
have to go under chapter 154 provisions and would be in the other
section which says that in a shoreline zone, a person must obtain a
permit to excavate or grade in any shoreline zone. This excavation or
grading must be done in compliance with subchapter of the comprehensive
plan and vegetation removal ordinance of 154.
Everything has different levels and the City Council doesn't want
to be involved with everything, just what the code defines. On
Ocean Blvd
, you would have a situation where this right-of-way permit is used and
would need to go through the City Council and that is the ordinance 149,
passed
8/8/96
. The City Council needs the recommendations of the Road Commission. A
lot of those things go from a recommendation of the Road Commission to
the City Recorder's office where they would be complete at that point. The
problem is that this whole process was sort of avoided and the Road
Commission wasn't given all the necessary information needed in order to
make an informed decision. Clearly, when this parking pad and the
riparian area passed through as an access permit, with no drawings, then
there is a process problem. In section 154 you would have had to go
through the permit procedure for vegetation removal and all these things
for this riparian area. The application would be received and the City
Recorder would immediately notify the chair person of the Conservation
Committee, who would then arrange a visit and prepare a written report
to the Planning Commission and that's when the Planning Commission takes
care of it; the City Council is not involved. The
Ocean Blvd.
problems should have gone from the Roads Commission to the City Recorder
to the Planning Commission and the Planning Commission is the one that
makes a decision and then any appeal goes out to the City Council. Each
one of these permits have different procedures for them and there is
nothing new about these procedures. These conditions have been in the
law since 2004 since the MRP was passed.
Mr. Petersdorf had a question about the condition that only permits
that require structures are suppose to go to the City Council for
approval and driveways or pads aren't structures. Robert responded by
saying that the permit definition is now a temporary right-of-way use
permit and that is per a
1-14-93
council action. Also, in the MRP we all know that it says if there is
any conflict in the law the MRP prevails. Now we have two conflicts that
are within the MRP not conflicting with the Dune City Ordinance, but
conflicting with themselves. When you look at that one, then it comes to
32.47 that is in the MRP and then the 93 Council action is trumped by a
96 Council action, which is in 32.47 which is also in the MRP and it
reads, "It shall consider that this is the duty of the Roads
Commission, it shall consider the citizens request for temporary use of
city streets and rights-of-way, removal of trees and vegetation from the
streets rights-of-ways and make recommendations there unto the City
Council". So that is the 96 resolution that trumps the 93 council
action and both are within the MRP, so what that means is that the
notation on the actual permit form needs to be updated. The main point
Robert was trying to make is that he doesn't like hearing that the City
Council doesn't value the contribution of the Roads Commission, because
that isn't the case at all. We need the Roads Commission to do all the
duties that they are there for, the knowledge , the recommendations, the
process which is a part of the big picture. The value is huge and he
wants the Commission to recognize the real opinion and as far as
procedure goes, we are basically just following the rules that are
already there. Now, back to Ocean Blvd.; this turned out to be a problem
because this project really required a right-of-way use permit, that
would have had to go to the City Council, it would have required the
application for an access permit, which didn't have to go to the City
Council. It would have required a permit
for vegetation removal which would have gone to the Planning Commission.
There are various things that would have had to happen to make this
project viable. The problem is that area in question is in a shoreline
protection area, so use in a shoreline protection area is really not
even allowed. None of the processes were followed that would have given
the parties all the input to make it happen according to the law. The
Road Commission didn't have any drawings that would show what was going
on, so an informed decision on what was really going on couldn't have
been made, because the project couldn't be looked at as it really
appeared. This has nothing
to do with the City Council stepping in and trying to get involved with
anything. It's really just the fact of following the Ordinance and doing
what's already there. As far as the value of the contributions of the
Road Commission, it's huge, so don't diminish the opinions of what the
contribution is and the order in which it's suppose to go. If
anyone had any questions, Robert wanted them to know that there is
nothing new here. There is no new laws, no new procedures that we are
asking the Roads Commission to do, just what is already here.
Linda Lauck asked if Patty and Amy could go through the forms and
make sure all the correct changes are made and the proper signature
lines are on the forms. There are many flaws in the permit forms. Robert
thought the best way would be to go through the MRP and read the
procedures. Linda asked Robert why he is the only Councilor that has
picked up on the problems with the procedures and the forms. He said
that it seems that only when a problem arises like the one on
Ocean Blvd.
, is when we figure out that there is a problem.
Linda said that it would be nice if the Roads Commission was kept in
the loop. In regards to the letter that went out to Eugene Stroud and
Dale Middlestadt , apologizing for the inconvenience of the incorrect
issuance. She said that she didn't see the letter until tonight. Why
didn't all the Road Commission people get the letter? Robert said that
the letter is really in the jurisdiction of the City Recorder's office,
so when a permit goes out without the knowledge of the City Recorder's
office, the legal authority for a permit and a stop work order is
issued. The permit came into the office on the same day as the stop work
order was issued. At that time it was realized all the processes that
would have had to happen during this particular project, had not been
realized. The Planning Commission was not originally involved and they
needed to be involved. Amy said that as far as her and Patty sitting
down to go over the permits were concerned, that the City Council did
make a recommendation at the City Council meeting on Thursday night
regarding going through all the permits to bring them up-to-date.
Mr. Petersdorf received a copy of the letter the same time as all
the City Council member did, which goes out the Friday before the
Thursday City Council meeting.. The
letter was in the City Council Packet and was mailed to the Council.
Patty did not get a copy of the letter, because it was cc'd to the
Mayor, the City Council and the City Attorney. The City Attorney emailed
Amy because she had questions on what her authority was, since she is
still new to the position. Mr.
Peterstorf had a copy in his packet and he was more than welcome to
distribute it. Next time Amy can give a copy to Patty and she can make
sure to distribute it to the Road Commission members. Mr.
Petersdorf said he only had two days to respond to the letter. Robert
said that if Mr. Petersdorf had a specific question to ask it and not
make accusations.
Linda had a comment on updating the Master Road Plan. She said that
Christy had kept a "Red Book" with all the changes that need
to happen to update the MRP. Maybe Patty can find it or call Christy and
find out where it is. Mr. Petersdorf said that they were waiting for the
Soil Errosion for the Roads to finish in the Courts before they started
on updating the MRP. Amy
said that at the last City Council meeting it was discussed that we are
looking into getting a grant to help us re-codify our books and do
things just like Linda's suggestion.
Mr. Petersdorf said that they don't go in and change anything in
the books, they just codify what we already have in the book. The City
Council is aware of the work that needs to be done and is looking into
getting help. Robert Quant said that the research needed to do the
updates would be a massive collective effort between the Road
Commission, the Planning Commission and everyone involved to put the
information together to find out how it needs to be done and codified
through a company that specializes.
Troy
stood up and wanted to make another comment.
He wanted to say that Councilor Petersdorf has been a real
gentleman through this whole ordeal. He felt that the
Ocean Blvd.
problems should have been discussed behind closed doors and not at the
City Council Meeting. He said that they really respect Mr. Petersdorf
and Mr. Petersdorf had his vote for Mayor.
G.
Reports
Keith
Herring Report
Ran Roads
8/22 through 9/12
1. Fixed
sign on
Ford Way
and looked at sign on
Alder Lane
that needs some work.
2. House at 83389 Spruce needs an apron.
3. There is
a Van parking on the Right of Way at 5486 Collins Loop. Mr. Petersdorf
and Linda believe that we gave the owners an extension to park there. We
will revisit at next RC meeting.
4. Delivered
meeting packets to the Road Commissioners
Linda made a
motion to accept the Inspector of Roads log sheet for August through
September 12th 2008
. Bill seconded the motion. 4 ayes 0 opposed. Motion carried.
Patty
Pennel, Road Secretary
No Report
Bill
Connell, Road Commissioner
1. Reported
that there is a phone line hanging very low on
Wright Road
and
Shirley Lane
. Looks like someone ran
into it and damaged the cable. There is yellow tape hanging on it. Keith
will go out and look and it and then have Patty contact the phone
company and get someone to come out and fix it.
2. Also,
Lakeview Drive
doesn't have a stop sign and needs a sign. Lakeview is a city street.
Mr. Petersdorf said that we have extra stop signs for Lakeview.
Linda
Lauck, Road Commissioner
August 28th
from
8:30
to
10:30
we had a work party on Hemlock where they felled 3
trees. They cut and loaded a
huge trailer thanks to Bill. Mr. Petersdorf, Bill, George, Dave, Keith,
Jo, Linda's husband David and Linda. All worked and put in 16 man hours
that day.
Patty to
make sure Amy gets this report. Amy needs all volunteer hours
Also, need
to get some protective equipment. Mr. Petersdorf got all information
together and is giving it to Dave Jackson per the Mayor's request.
Dave
Persons, Road Commissioner
Wanted to
comment that we as the Road Commission have been here for a long time
and the City staff members come and go and this situation has been a
hard time for everybody and that you don't walk in as a new person and
immediately know everything that's suppose to be unique to a particular
community and we are all going through a learning process. Mistakes are
going to happen or we wouldn't be human. He wanted to appeal to everyone
involved to be patient with the process. Dave has been around this group
for many years and they are all honest, sincere and intelligent people,
with the community in mind. He just wanted to impress to everybody to
take that second breath and reach for understanding. It's so easy to get
upset with the things that have happened. At the last Council meeting,
we had some stuff that had everybody shook up. We need to find the
mistake, fix it and move on. He hopes that we can see some closer
friendships and keep the lines of communication open.
Lee
Riechel, Planning and Road Commissioner
We still
have one conditional use permit on the table, but it looks like our
summer building season is probably over. Linda wanted to know how this
will impact money coming in. Lee said that he doesn't have any authority
to do much about the money aspect.
George
McKenzie, Road Commissioner
Nothing to
Report
Mr.
Petersdorf Petersdorf, Road Chairperson
TSiltcoos
Club Plat meeting is scheduled for Thursday, September 18th
at
7pm
. This meeting is just for discussion to figure out what direction the
citizens want the City Council to do with the Roads that that
Lane
County
took over and whether or not the Citizens want
Dunes
City
to take them back from the County.
Mr.
Petersdorf wanted to say that he finally got a computer and will have
email available as soon as he figures it out.
I.
Adjournment
Adjournment
was at
8:40 pm
THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED ROAD COMMISSION
MEETING WILL BEGIN AT
6:30 P.M
,
MONDAY OCTOBER 20TH ,
2008
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Mr. Petersdorf Petersdorf,
Chair
Patty Pennel, Road Secretary