Dunes
City Planning Commission
M
I N U T E S Regular Meeting - March 27, 2008
-
7:00 P.M.
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First
Evidentiary Hearing - Stormwater Management Ordinance
City
Hall -
82877 Spruce St
Westlake
,
OR
97439
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
Troy
Ronning, Ken Platt, Lee Riechel, Ron
Shearer, Eggert
Madsen, Sandy Jones
AUDIENCE MEMBERS:
Eight
STAFF PRESENT:
Andrea Waler
I.
CALL TO
ORDER
Chairman Lee Riechel called the meeting of the Dunes City
Planning Commission to
order at
7:30 pm
.
Lee Riechel welcomed new Planning Commission
member, Sandy Jones
II.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Lee Riechel
postponed approval of
February 28, 2008
Planning Commission meeting
minutes until the next Planning Commission meeting.
III.
OLD BUSINESS
Lee Riechel opened the Public Hearing at
7:35 pm.
on Ordinance 194 - Storm Pollution
Reduction.
Lee Riechel stated the policies in the Dunes City Comprehensive
Plan as criteria for
the Stormwater Management Ordinance review.
He specifically identified policies A1,
A9, B9, E1, through E4 and E7.
And it was noted that there is reasonable evidence that criteria
for this activity is well supported and covered by the
comprehensive plan. Lee
Riechel then read the explanation of hearing procedures.
He further
explained that the
Evidentiary hearing results will be sent to the City Council on
the auspices of a recommendation from the Planning Commission.
At this point in the
hearing, Lee Riechel asked each individual Planning Commission
member if they had any
actual or potential conflicts of interest.
All Commission members stated no.
Lee Riechel then
welcomed public input.
William Gates -
Canary Road
,
Florence
,
OR
97439
William Gates expressed his concern that the Stormwater Manual's
reference to a 5 year storm as a
storm model is woefully inadequate.
William Gates suggested a 25 year storm quideline at a minimum,
based on the NOA chart. He
expressed that the City should adopt a specific storm model.
He pointed out the 5 year storm model is for 4.5 inches of rain and
a 100 year storm is 8 inches of rain.
John Stead
-
83505 S. Cove Way
,
Florence
,
OR
97439
.
John Stead
shared the lengthy and involved process that this Ordinance had gone
through and identified the various Committees that had worked on this
project. He suggested a 100
year storm guideline rather than 5 year model.
5 year is unrealistic for this area.
25 year is better, but with our weather, a 100 year is recommended.
He also shared that last summer with the Blue/Green algae problem,
we need to be good stewards of the lake.
He also feels the public does not want to deal with registered
engineers anymore than they have to. John
Stead stated that he is endorsing this document as presented.
Jerry
Curran - 5600 Shady Lane,
Dunes City
,
OR
97493
. Jerry
Curran supports proposal of endorsement for stormwater control.
He served on the Stormwater Committee, working on this project
approximately 100 hours. Jerry
Curran stated he does endorse John Stead's proposal and feels the 100
year/8" rain model be endorsed. He
feels there is no danger in being over-prepared however,
under-preparedness can be disastrous though.
David
Bellemore - 83548 Salal,
Florence
,
OR
97439
.
David Bellemore shared his involvement in the work on Stormwater
Management from the very start. He
recommends requiring higher standards and protecting resources as lakes
like Woahink are becoming increasingly rare.
He also backs the 100 year storm standard. David Bellemore feels it
is necessary to keep the stormwater manual out of ordinance because
changes would be
The manual can changed and kept separate.
David Bellemore also complimented the Planning Commission for their
work on this project.
Darlene
Beckman - 82150
Booth
Island
,
Westlake
,
OR
97493
. Darlene
Beckman said she supports the
stormwater management program but it needs to be understandable and still
protect our water. She stated
it needs to be realistic, effective , and useful so homeowners are able to
utilize it.
Norman
Martin -
83750 Rio Drive
,
Florence
,
OR
97439
Norman Martin presented to the Planning Commission a
62 page packet of information entitled "Documents for Objections
to the Stormwater Pollution Reduction
Ordinance" that he wants to be part of the record.
This information packet is attached to these minutes.
Norman Martin went through each document he presented and explained
his position which in a condensed version is "the City is breaking
many laws, rules and statutes". Norman
Martin also stated the process was wrong as well.
Lee Riechel pointed out to Norman Martin that this information
should be directed to the City Council.
The Public Hearing portion of the meeting was closed
at
9:28 PM
and the Planning Commissioners began their discussion.
Lee Riechel expressed that none of them have the technical
expertise or knowledge to critique and make recommendations on the manual
but in administering and making the process work.
With that in mind, Lee Riechel felt they could only make broad
versus detailed comments. Ron
Shearer suggested having an Engineer at the City Council meeting when this
is presented. Lee Riechel
asked for more opinions from the Planning Commission.
Troy Ronning expressed that this was too complex for the average
citizen. He suggested removing
the Ordinance from the stormwater manual so the City Council can change it
at will.
Lee Riechel stated a decision needed to be made and
the Planning Commission members decided that in order to give it their
best effort they wanted to reconvene next week.
A motion was made to reconvene and a meeting date was set for
Monday, March 31, 2008
at
7:00 pm.
, at
Dunes
City Hall
.
Meeting adjourned at
10:18 pm
Respecfully submitted,
Andrea Waler
Planning Secretary